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The October 7 Anniversary, Antisemitism and People of Faith: Jim Pfaff on The Morning Answer with Jennifer Horn | Oct 7, 2026

Published: October 7, 2026
Network: AM 590 The Answer/Salem Media
Analysis: Conservative Caucus President Jim Pfaff

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Jennifer Horn called it one of those days that’s always very hard to think back on. On the October 7 anniversary, three years after Hamas attacked Israel, the host of The Morning Answer asked Conservative Caucus President Jim Pfaff where the nation stands on antisemitism. In her words, it has not crept in. It has flooded into our country. Horn’s Southern California listeners already had their ballots in hand. Pfaff took the conversation from the Charlie Kirk conspiracy theory and Hamas to what people of faith owe the fight against socialism, and finished with Steve Hilton’s case against Xavier Becerra.

Topics Covered

• Nick Shirley and the Town Hall Panel
• The October 7 Anniversary and Antisemitism in America
• The Charlie Kirk Conspiracy and the Israeli People
• Hamas, the Genocide Charge and the Abraham Accords
• People of Faith, Article I, Section 8 and the Early Church
• Steve Hilton, Xavier Becerra and 300,000 Children
• Key Takeaways

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Nick Shirley and the Town Hall Panel

Before turning to the October 7 anniversary, Horn thanked Pfaff for the station’s Town Hall. There he hosted a panel with Nick Shirley, Nick Sortor, Jennifer Van Laar and Assemblyman David Tangipa. She called it one of the best panels they did, because there is such interest in getting truth to people. Pfaff said she gave him far too much credit by saying he stole the show. Every couple of weeks he is on a Zoom call with friends from a college campus ministry who live in Asia. When they found out about the event, they asked about Nick Shirley. They didn’t care about him, Pfaff said. That’s how popular Shirley is.

Horn said Shirley had never been to one of their events, and she didn’t know what to expect from someone she only knew through his videos. She came away seeing an unassuming young man who is doing this for the right reasons and is unbothered by the fame. Pfaff said Shirley is in a very precarious situation, because some people, particularly in California, are very, very mad at him. Horn added: just for telling the truth. Pfaff said Nick Sortor is almost like a son to him and his wife, Myra, and knows Shirley well. Pfaff spent time with Shirley in the green room and called him a good kid who is really smart for his age.

“I think it’s been such a great thing for the nation, actually. It drives an administration already motivated to do things. But Nick Shirley brought something to the table that allowed the Trump administration to really go after this.”
— Jim Pfaff, President, The Conservative Caucus

Horn put it this way: Shirley brought the ball, and to the Trump administration’s credit, they are running with it. When she introduced him on stage, she said she didn’t think there would be a fraud task force or a fraud czar without Nick Shirley.

The October 7 Anniversary and Antisemitism in America

Horn set the frame for the October 7 anniversary herself. In some ways, she said, it doesn’t reach the extent of 9/11, because it did not happen in our country. But it happened in the world, and it touched everybody.

“If you remember back a few years to the anniversary of October 7th, we all sat in horror as we watched some of these images, some of them too graphic for many of us to even see or consume in the media.”
— Jennifer Horn, Host, The Morning Answer

Her question for the October 7 anniversary was about home: where are we as a nation with antisemitism? Pfaff answered that the turn of events is really amazing, and then he named one cause.

The Charlie Kirk Conspiracy and the Israeli People

Part of the rise, Pfaff said, came after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, when a conspiracy theory spread that the Israelis had been trying to kill him.

“This conspiracy that the Israelis were trying to kill him just added to the antisemitism that’s come up related to that. And I think it’s obscene and absurd. You know, you can have your differences maybe with Israel, the government, or whatever, but the Israeli people have been the focus of some horrible, tragic events that have come their way.”
— Jim Pfaff, President, The Conservative Caucus

Pfaff drew a line between Israel’s government and the Israeli people. Differences with a government are one thing, he said; the horrible, tragic events fell on the Israeli people. To show the scale, he put the attack in American terms.

“It’s a huge thing that happened. They were right to retaliate.”
— Jim Pfaff, President, The Conservative Caucus

Hamas, the Genocide Charge and the Abraham Accords

Pfaff then answered the people calling the Gaza effort a genocide. He left room to criticize how Israel fought the war, and said he may have a few small points of his own. But the criticism did not change what Hamas is.

“You can certainly maybe have criticisms about certain aspects of how Israel conducted that. And I do maybe have a few tiddly things that I would bring up. But the reality is Hamas is a terrorist organization that went out to destroy and is out to destroy Israel.”
— Jim Pfaff, President, The Conservative Caucus

He called the response since that day pretty restrained on our part. It eventually led to what is going on in the Middle East now, which he said is bringing a lot of peace ultimately. The good he hopes comes out of it is the Abraham Accords getting expanded. TCC covered an earlier chapter of that story in the Gaza hostage release and Trump’s peace deal.

“I really do pray that that happens because it would just be nice to have the Middle East at least relatively settled after this tragic event. And I think we need to pray for the people of Israel and just pray for peace in the region.”
— Jim Pfaff, President, The Conservative Caucus

Horn agreed that the prayer piece is huge. She said she prays for it here at home too, because she believes we have now allowed the enemy to creep into our system.

People of Faith, Article I, Section 8 and the Early Church

Horn took the October 7 anniversary into the midterms. Some candidates, she said, are running on pretty anti-American principles. She pointed to the Michigan Senate race, some city council races, the mayor’s race in Los Angeles and the mayor of New York, and asked: how did this happen?

“These are people who are coming in here and they are touting socialism, which hasn’t worked anywhere on the planet. The experiments failed, but yet it sounds good to young people who think America is the problem.”
— Jennifer Horn, Host, The Morning Answer

Free stuff, Horn said, and the idea that the government is supposed to take care of you. We have lost the ability to want to work hard, and meritocracy. Pfaff said people of faith play a role in how we got here.

“I think people of faith play a role in how we’ve gotten to this place in the sense that, listen, we need to look and recognize the severe limitations that the Constitution placed on the American government, which we are not restraining ourselves to right now.”
— Jim Pfaff, President, The Conservative Caucus

Anyone who needs to, he said, should read Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution. That restraint is much more severe than what we are doing right now. People of goodwill and of faith should recognize limited government, knowing that mankind is not merely flawed but severely flawed without heavy work to discipline itself. That, Pfaff said, was the promise of America. Then he named the argument that let socialism in.

“We’ve allowed this socialism to creep in because we’ve listened to the lies that say that the Bible is a socialist institution just because, you know, early Christians shared things in common. And by the way, the reason they did that is there were a lot of poor people who were coming to Christ and becoming part of the church, and they needed help. And they were just helping them. They didn’t seek the government to do this.”
— Jim Pfaff, President, The Conservative Caucus

Because that argument has not been properly made, Pfaff said, government has crept in, and socialist ideals have followed it into the system. We need to be pushing severely back against it. “This is what we’re fighting for,” he said. TCC took up the same history in Dr. Reeves on the early church model of charity.

Steve Hilton, Xavier Becerra and 300,000 Children

Pfaff then turned to Steve Hilton, who he said is doing a great job of showing how Xavier Becerra is really horrible in these areas and so many more, and how Becerra failed us when he ran HHS by allowing the fraud to come in.

“These are the arguments we need to have. We need to support people like Steve and others and Spencer Pratt even, that are willing to have this argument because we need to change the way we think about these things in this country.”
— Jim Pfaff, President, The Conservative Caucus

Horn agreed. The image that stayed with her from the CNN debate was Hilton talking to Becerra about losing 300,000 kids while Becerra sucked down his cup of coffee like he didn’t even care. Pfaff asked how many of those kids became sex slaves, or in effect indentured servants in factories. “He allowed it,” Pfaff said. Horn answered: “Yep, absolutely.”

Key Takeaways

1. The October 7 anniversary – Three years on, Horn said antisemitism has not crept in but flooded into the country.
2. The Kirk conspiracy fed it – Pfaff said the theory that Israelis tried to kill Charlie Kirk added to antisemitism and called it obscene and absurd.
3. Israel was right to retaliate – Pfaff allowed room to criticize Israel’s conduct but said Hamas is a terrorist organization out to destroy Israel.
4. Pray for peace – He said he prays the Abraham Accords get expanded and the Middle East becomes relatively settled.
5. The Bible is not socialist – Early Christians helped the poor coming to Christ without seeking the government, Pfaff said, and Article I, Section 8 is the limit.
6. Becerra allowed it – Pfaff credited Steve Hilton for showing how Xavier Becerra failed at HHS.

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About The Conservative Caucus:
The Conservative Caucus is a grassroots public policy action organization, formed in 1974. Headed by President Jim Pfaff, the Caucus is committed to advancing free enterprise, limited government, and traditional values.

Originally broadcast Oct 7, 2026 on The Morning Answer with Jennifer Horn, AM 590 The Answer/Salem Media.